FROM CURRY & CARBS TO METABOLIC HEALTH WITH DR NELUM DHARMAPRIYA
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Episode 302:
Show Notes
Dr Mary Barson interviews Dr Nelum Dharmapriya, a GP with over 30 years of experience, originally from Sri Lanka, who trained in Scotland and practised in the UK before relocating to Brisbane 17 years ago. She co-founded a thriving medical centre north of Brisbane and is the founder of Whole Food Revolution, a program using three keys — science, mindset, and lifestyle — to help women in their 40s and beyond improve their metabolic health.
Dr Nelum's Personal Health Journey
In her early 50s, Dr Nelum gained weight around her middle, felt fatigued and irritable, and was diagnosed as pre-diabetic with a raised coronary calcium score — despite following conventional "eat less, move more, low-fat" advice her whole life. Discovering the importance of insulin and low-carb eating (after reading an article by Dr Liz Fraser on Ozdoc) transformed her health: she lost belly fat, improved all metabolic markers, and reversed her pre-diabetes trajectory.
The Whole Food Revolution Program
Initially, Dr Nelum ran science-heavy 8-session appointments within Medicare, but found this unsustainable and ineffective long-term. She now runs three one-hour GP appointments combined with an online platform offering two workshops:
- Three Keys to Weight Loss & Wellness — covers the science of food and initiating behaviour change
- Emotional Eating Workshop — a full-day deep dive into mindset, trauma, dysregulated nervous systems, and stress
She partners with Ronit, a life coach, recognising that science alone isn't enough — mindset is essential for sustainable change.
Inspiring Patient Case Study
A woman in her early 50s presented with a new type 2 diabetes diagnosis and an HbA1c of 12.6%. She declined metformin and committed to three simple lifestyle changes:
- Prioritising protein at every meal
- Daily meditation
- Daily walking with short high-intensity intervals
After three months, her HbA1c dropped to 6.2% and she lost 6 kg and 10 cm from her waist. Dr Nelum emphasised this is not a "challenge" but a permanent lifestyle shift, with strength training now being added as the next step.
South Asian Metabolic Health: A Special Focus
South Asians (comprising 25% of the global population — India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, etc.) develop type 2 diabetes, heart disease, and fatty liver disease 10–15 years earlier than white Europeans. Key risk factors include:
- Low personal fat threshold — fat is stored viscerally and in organs rather than subcutaneously
- Low muscle mass genetically, worsened by very little strength exercise
- High-carb cultural diets — rice, roti, chapati eaten multiple times daily
- Low dietary protein, especially among vegetarians and older adults
- Unaddressed chronic stress, particularly in migrant communities away from support networks
- Exposure to processed foods and seed oils in diaspora settings
Dr Nelum noted this message of metabolic health has not been sufficiently extended into South Asian communities, making it her personal mission to bridge this gap.
The 80/20 Rule for Cultural Food
Rather than giving up beloved cultural foods, Dr Nelum advocates an 80/20 approach: eating predominantly low-carb and protein-rich at home, but when dining with family and community, consciously savouring the meal without guilt or a stress response. She emphasises that negative food thoughts trigger a cellular stress/threat response — reframing the mindset around food is just as important as the food itself.
Connect with Dr Nelum Dharmapriya
Website: Whole Food Revolution - Holistic Health Coaching for Women 40+
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Episode 302:
Transcript
Dr Mary Barson (0:04) Hello, my lovely friends. I am Dr Mary Barson.
Dr Lucy Burns (0:09) And I'm Dr Lucy Burns. We are doctors and weight management and metabolic health experts.
Both (0:16) And this is the Real Health and Weight Loss podcast!
Dr Mary Barson (00:21) Hello my lovely friend, and welcome to this episode of The Real Health and Weight Loss Podcast. I am Dr Mary Barson, and today I'm thrilled to be joined by our fabulous guest, Dr Nelum Dharmapriya. Nelum is a GP with over 30 years experience working in the UK and Australia. She located from Manchester to Brisbane and co-founded a thriving medical centre just north of Brisbane. And Dr Nelum is a passionate advocate for good metabolic health, particularly for women in their midlife. Dr Nelum is the founder of Whole Food Revolution, which uses the three keys of science, mindset and lifestyle to help women in their 40s and beyond improve their metabolic health. She has a special interest in insulin resistance, women's health and cardiometabolic disease. And she is a great advocate for greater recognition of the unique health needs and health risks facing people from South Asian communities. Dr Nelum Dharmapriya, thank you so much for joining us. I would love it if you could start off by telling our listeners about you and about your story, because it is quite a unique one.
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (01:46) Thank you, thank you so much, Mary, for having me on your show, on your podcast. Yes, so I grew up in Sri Lanka and, you know, eating beautiful, amazing Sri Lankan food. When I was 21, I went off to study medicine in Scotland, which was a very, very, it was a crazy experience because it was kind of, you know, the two polar opposites in terms of weather and everything. But I really enjoyed that experience and then, you know, I did medicine, I studied medicine. It was culturally, it was quite challenging, especially the initial first year, but anyway, I mean, I think, you know, people who move like this are reasonably adaptable, so I kind of adapted and then went into general practice. I started off wanting to do endocrinology and I actually did some hospital medicine, and then realised, you know, I'd already had my son, my older son, by then, and it was a nightmare. It was such a difficult thing to do, to be a junior doctor, doing on calls and studying for exams and caring for a one-year-old. And then I thought, okay, I think I'm going to do general practice. But I wanted to get my medical exams because I didn't want to get into general practice as a, “Oh well, I couldn’t do that, so therefore I'm going to do this.” So I actually got all my MRCP, which is my specialist exams, and then decided, right, general practice. And truly, it was the best decision I made. I am made for general practice, and I love it. And so then I was a GP, a partner in a practice in the north of England, for seven years. And then we decided that we might, well, I don’t know why we decided, it was just one of those things that happened. My husband and I decided, I think we need to come to Australia, because we had some friends who were moving, and it was just one of those things that… and, you know, when people ask me, there was no logic to it. It was probably the weather.
It was like, if we're going, we're going to go somewhere that is the complete opposite, because we lived in Manchester, and if you know anything about Manchester, it's cold and dreary. We had a great life, but that was the thing. So we ended up in Brisbane, and actually we turned up, I think it was the right place at the right time. This was going back 17 years ago. Brisbane at the time, north of Brisbane in particular, there was a real need for infrastructure, general practices. Where I ended up, there was nothing. You know, I was the first doctor in Narangba, which is only 35 minutes north of Brisbane. For five years, they couldn’t find a doctor. So I mean, yeah, I mean, how? I don’t know why. So anyway, we realised that there was a real need for GPs and a proper service. So my husband and I then, he did a lot of work, we built a practice and we moved into it, and it grew. I mean, the first day we registered, because there were three of us, as we’d worked together for a few years, we registered a thousand patients. It was amazing. And then now, I mean, since then, it’s now 13 years, and since then we’ve sold it, but I’m still there. It’s a beautiful, thriving practice. And yeah, so that was the story of my practice journey.
Dr Mary Barson (05:28) I love it.
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (05:29) In all of that, Mary, you know, I suddenly, in my early 50s, you know, I always thought I was a very healthy individual. You know, I'd always exercise like we're asked to do. I ate the low fat. You know, I did all the things that I thought I was supposed to be doing. But in my early 50s, you know, whatever, I mean, this is the typical story, isn't it?, that, you know, I was putting on weight regardless, particularly around my middle, and I was tired. I was irritable and then, you know, I just couldn't shake this, whatever I did. And it was a friend, a friend said to me, and she just made this comment. She said, “Well, obviously, you've got to do something different.” Obviously, now it makes so much sense, but, you know, it's, you know, Mary, as doctors, I think sometimes we're pretty narrow-minded in how we think, and we've been given this script of this is what you need to do, this is what you tell your patients. And I couldn't figure out initially what that something different was. It was like, well, we're conditioned, aren't we, and ingrained in our training that this is what you do. You eat less and you move more. That was it. I mean, and you eat low fat, and that's what we… And it was only, so I was looking. What was it that I was looking for? And then this article popped up in Ozdoc, written by one of our own low-carb advocates, Dr Liz Fraser, and it was like, “Oh my gosh, this is what I've been looking for,” and it changed my life. It changed my life. Well, it wasn't easy to change my life, because I do come from Sri Lanka, and that's what I eat. So when I heard about low-carb, well, first the realisation that insulin was so important, and then when I heard that to actually get to that, I really needed to reduce the carbs, that was like, “Well, how am I supposed to do that?” Like, that's not… I eat, every meal I eat is carbs. And so it took me about two months to get my head around that, and then I eventually thought, you know what, Neelam, you've got to do something. You've got to, you know, make this happen. And then I thought, okay. And so I made slow changes, and within three months, and we know in the low-carb world that that's what happens, things change very rapidly. So it changed my life. It changed because I was also, at that time, diagnosed as pre-diabetic. So that was a real worry, because I have a very strong family history, like a lot of South Asians, of type 2 diabetes in my family. And my mom was diagnosed at the same age that I was at the time, at 52. And then my coronary calcium score came up as intermediately raised, and that also was like, I was like, “Oh my gosh, you know, what's going on here?” You know, so everything in my health changed. I became, oh, I lost the weight, particularly all that belly fat, all my metabolic markers improved, and then I realised… I just started looking around me, first at my patients, because a lot of my patients are women between 40 and 70. And we might be culturally different, but we’re presenting with exactly the same problems. And I realised that I had to bring this information to my patients. So I worked really hard, truly, I worked harder than I've worked in all my life, to create, to understand for myself, and to create a program for my patients. So that's been five years now, and it's, I'm loving it. It's completely changed the way I practice medicine.
Dr Mary Barson (09:26) That's a beautiful story. I'm sure that adaptability that you talked about, being someone who has gone through such big changes, from Sri Lanka to Scotland to GP ownership to Brisbane to selling your GP, that adaptability has served you very well. Can you tell us more about this program that you have and what you do to help your beautiful patients?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (09:52) It's been, I've had several variations of this, Mary, because trying to do it within the Medicare system is very tricky, because these appointments, when we're talking about lifestyle, and I don't just talk about food, I talk about all the elements of lifestyle. So sleep, managing stress, movement, inflammation, gut, you know, all of that, you can't do them in a 15-minute appointment. And so I used to have, so this initial iteration of my program was eight sessions of 45-minute appointments, where I taught the science, because I thought I just needed to teach the science. And for a while, that's what I did, and the patients loved it, and I loved it. But I work three days a week, and if I had, you know, six or seven patients doing this program, well, I couldn't see any other patient, and I realised that it didn't work. So now I've had, you know, I've done all kinds of things, so now I've got a more streamlined approach. So I don't teach the science. Now what I do is I have three one-hour appointments. I don't teach the science, but I talk about what to do, and I give them a lot of handouts and information. And then for anybody who wants a deeper dive into the science or anything else, I then created Whole Food Revolution, which is an online platform. So we, I work with Ronit, who's a life coach, so we do kind of one-day workshops that are a deep dive into the science, into mindset, into emotional eating. So that's how I now run it. So it's a much better structure. It works for me, it works for my patients, it works for my regular patients, because I'm still a GP. I still do all the GP stuff, which I love, and I don't think I want to give that up. So it's trying to incorporate it all, and for it to be cost-effective for patients, and it has to also be cost-effective for me in the time that I have given to this. So yeah.
Dr Mary Barson (12:03) Absolutely, I love that, how you've managed to marry the two together. It's similar to my story, it's similar to Dr Lucy's story about how can you make lifestyle medicine work within the confines of the Australian general practice reality. And we too have moved to an online platform, and we find it really helpful. So can you tell us a bit more about what you do with the Whole Food Revolution? Like, what do those workshops look like?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (12:32) So at Whole Food Revolution, so first, it was a very interesting transition, Mary. First I thought, because I got so much out of learning the science, that that's what I had to do, that I had to just teach the science. And for a year, that's what I did. And then I realised that initially my patients would do really well for about six months, really well, and then they'd hit a wall, and I couldn't understand why that was. And then the realisation that stress and all of that, and then the emotional eating side of things coming in, and how trauma plays into it, all of that. So then the realisation that I had to introduce a component in terms of not just the science, that I had to introduce talking about mindset and managing stress. But this was not an area that I had, you know, obviously in my work as a GP I do this every day, but to actually formalise it. And then that's when I got my friend Ronit, who is a life coach, has been doing this kind of work for such a long time. We got together, and that's how Whole Food Revolution came about. The realisation that, for sustainable change, we've got to have three, what we call the three keys, and that's the science, that's the mindset, and lifestyle. So that's what we offer at Whole Food Revolution. Everything that we do is based on those three keys. So I teach the science, Ronit is all about mindset, and then together we also have practical, easy lifestyle tips and how to actually put this into practice. So we run two workshops. One is Three Keys to Weight Loss and Wellness, and that's all about the science of food and how to initiate behaviour change, and then a full-day workshop on emotional eating, which also has the science, but also all of that, and we talk a lot about dysregulated nervous systems and all of that. So yeah, I enjoy, we enjoy.
Dr Mary Barson (14:59) Yes, it can really bring the fun back to medicine when you can see these positive changes.
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (15:07) Absolutely, yeah, it has, really, yeah.
Dr Mary Barson (15:10) Can you think of any de-identified patient stories that kind of highlight the wonderful changes that you have seen?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (15:19) Oh, there are so many, there are so many, Mary. But let's see. Recently, this lady came to see me, she was a new patient to me, in her early 50s, and blood tests revealed a new diagnosis of type 2 diabetes with quite a high HbA1c. And she kind of knew that that was where she was heading, because she had been feeling very lethargic and she was just so tired, and she had all the perimenopausal symptoms as well. When she came to see me, we talked about this, and I suggested to her that I could help her, but that there was going to be a commitment to some kind of lifestyle changes. Because if you always just do what you have always done, you're really not going to get very far. And she took this on board. We initially did all her blood tests and we had a plan, and then she actually did the Three Keys to Weight Loss and Wellness workshop, and that really gave her a very good understanding of what the underlying problem was. And she put simple things into place, just prioritising protein, because that's the first thing that we talked about in terms of simple things to do. You know, at every meal, if you prioritise protein, it's much easier to cut down on the carbs. And then she also put in daily meditation, and I think the third thing was movement. We got her walking, and also doing a little bit of high-intensity work. So in that walk that she does, she would do short, you know, 30-second to one-minute sessions, of higher intensity, where she was walking really briskly or even running if she could. So nothing too dramatic, and really being consistent. And so her HbA1c, I saw her recently, Mary, her HbA1c was 12.6 when she came to see me, yeah. And she refused, we talked about adding in metformin, because I think metformin is a really good medication for type 2 diabetes and metabolic health as well, but she declined it. She said, “No, can you give me three months? I just want to see what I can do.” And she came in to see me, I think it must have been two weeks ago, and her HbA1c was 6.2.
Dr Mary Barson (18:04) That's amazing, isn't that amazing?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (18:05) Absolutely amazing. And so the thing is that we discussed, this is not a three-month challenge. This is not something that she did for three months and somehow it is miraculously going to stay that way. We talked about the fact that she is, and always will be, carbohydrate intolerant, and that she always has to be aware of that. And so she is so happy with her result. She's lost six kilograms in weight and ten centimetres off her waist. So that is so good, and she just feels better. But the next step now, we are adding in strength training, because I think for women over 40, that is so important. You know, so many stories like this. And Mary, I'm not saying that it's easy, that this is it and it's a fairy tale ending and she will never have problems again, because lifestyle is difficult. And when stresses and challenges get in the way, people do kind of revert back to their old patterns. But I think having somebody like myself and Ronit, who can support and guide and encourage, I think is the important bit here.
Dr Mary Barson (19:21) Yes. I love that recently you did a video on low-carb down under about, you know, low carb eating for people of a South Asian origin. And it's just, it's going gangbusters, that YouTube video. If you haven't watched it, you definitely should. From your beautiful, unique perspective, could you expand on that? You know, the particular challenges in South Asians. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (19:50) so South Asians, and I just have to define South Asians, because people have, even as South Asians, think that we're something else for some reason. Anyway, South Asians, okay, like people say Southeast Asians. No, we're not Southeast Asians, we're South Asians. So South Asians are India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Maldives, Bhutan, some include Afghanistan, so it's 25% of the global population, Mary. And South Asians, the issue with us, you know, I'm included in there, is that we are prone to metabolic dysfunction much earlier than other ethnic groups, particularly earlier than the white European ethnic group. So 10 to 15 years earlier, we see the onset of type 2 diabetes, heart disease, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, kidney disease, you know, all of this, high blood pressure. And so this tends to affect the group, particularly the working population. And not only is it early, it also progresses faster. A lot of people would say, “But you're not overweight.” Even when I was, well, I will talk about that when I actually was overweight, because in South Asians, we don't tend to put on a lot of body fat on the outside. We have a low personal fat threshold, so we can't actually put a lot of fat on the outside. So because of that, it predominantly goes into visceral fat depots and into our organs. So we get this organ dysfunction and inability for the liver to work properly, for muscle cells to do their job in the way that other ethnic groups are able to. So this genetic predisposition is the way, it's our phenotype, it's the way that we are made. So generally, South Asians tend to have a bigger belly, we're kind of apple-shaped, with very thin arms and legs. And we also have low muscle mass. That's how we are born. We tend to have lower muscle mass, and then put together the lifestyle factors, you know, most of you know what South Asians eat, it's a lot of rice, it's roti, it's chapati, it's the sweets. Sometimes, growing up, I ate these foods three times a day. I would have rice three times a day. And then also, you know, particularly the diaspora, having moved out of South Asia into countries like Australia, America, UK, Canada, Middle East, you know, all of those, so then being exposed to a lot of processed foods that we may not necessarily have had access to back in our home countries. I mean, saying that, it is now, there's plenty of access in South Asia itself, but then that exposure to industrial seed oils and excess sugars, and these foods that are all these, what are they?, well, food-like substances. Yes, food-like substances that are easy, convenient, cheap, you know, all of that. And then also, South Asians really do not like to exercise. We really are very little, exercise, very little. I mean, I cannot, the younger generation, things are changing, but somebody who is, you know, 40 and above, like any form of strength exercise, it is very few people that do that. So we already have low muscle mass, and with age, this tends to deteriorate, as you know, and then we don't do anything to actually maintain it. A lot of the diet in particularly the Indian subcontinent, a lot of people are vegetarians, and as South Asians age, we tend to, just for cultural and religious reasons, eat less protein, become vegetarian. Even those eating animal foods don't eat it every day. And so these are all issues. And then the stress side of things, you know, we don't, this is, you know, particularly again, people who migrate, it's about, you know, there is a degree of resilience in this group, but we don't talk about stresses, we don't address it. That's pushed to the back. There's so much else to do. We've got to find a good job, we've got to make sure we make the money, we've got to educate our children, you know, all of those things. We're away from our support networks, and for a lot of people, it's a different language, a different culture, things are very different. So all of these things are relevant to why South Asians tend to get metabolic dysfunction so much earlier, and that progression. And the thing is, Mary, what I realised is that in the low-carb world, you know, the metabolic health world, we, I mean, there is so much evidence to suggest that, I mean, and we know it works. It works in our individual stories, in our patients. But this message, and this is what I saw, is that this message hasn't been extended into the South Asians. And if you look at, in Australia, let's say, there are lots of clinicians and providers who are South Asian, but we don't talk to our communities. And that's what I found, and I thought, and that became like a mission to me. Because, you know, I realised how difficult it was for me. It is not easy to be low-carb as a South Asian, because, you know, my cultural heritage is very important to me, my community is very important to me. And like a lot of other cultures, we come together over food, that's how we do it. And, you know, food is very important, every gathering is around food. And it is very difficult to gather around food and to say, “Oh well, I'm not eating that.” It's very hard. And I think, and I don't want to do that. I enjoy my Sri Lankan foods. So how to find that balance is not easy. But that's when I kind of came up with the 80–20 rule, that when I'm at home, I eat predominantly low-carb, I prioritise protein, I eat low-carb. But when I'm out with my family, with my friends, I say to myself, I don't think of it, and this is how I tell my patients as well, don't look at that and say, “Oh, I shouldn't, but I really want to.” No, not like that. You sit down and you think, “I am going to enjoy this meal, and I am going to savour it.” And that makes a difference in how you look at that food, and it doesn't give you that stress reaction and those negative thoughts. And then you know that tomorrow you can go and just get back to your habits that you have started to put into place. And that realisation that for us South Asians, we have to make, we can't do the things that we keep on doing, we have to put additional things in. So to keep on eating and enjoying the things that we love in our community, we need to put in other things, and that is a little bit of time-restricted eating, and also we have to put in the right form of movement. So that's my mission. It was my mission to try and say to people: you don't need to give up everything you love to be healthy. Because that, and that was me, I remember thinking, “Well, how can I do this? I can't be low-carb.” But I can, I can, with a bit of compromise.
Dr Mary Barson (27:47) Yes, I love that it's not all or nothing, and that's such a beautiful mind flip, to say that you're going to have this higher-carb meal and savour it and enjoy it, and you don't induce that stress response. Because when you do induce that stress response, people might just want to hoover it down and pretend it didn't happen, or then get stressed and want to keep eating, and it could trigger our emotional response for food. So that is a beautiful way to phrase it.
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (28:13) Yep, yep. So I think, and that's what I've learned through the journey with Ronit, about all the, you know, these thoughts. Our thoughts, we think that only we hear it, but what about the millions of cells that hear these negative thoughts and get this threat response, and then kind of are in this, “Oh my gosh, we've got to do something to keep ourselves safe.” So, and I try and explain that to people that I work with, whether it's my patients or people that I work with through Whole Food Revolution, that we have to watch the thoughts as well.
Dr Mary Barson (00:49) Yes, yes, thoughts are so powerful. I love that. So for all our listeners out there who are listening to you, to your inspiring story, to the fabulous things that you do, could you give tidbits of some great advice about where to start if people are feeling stuck or overwhelmed or in that stress response? What would be your advice about how to just get some traction?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (28:13) So I think what worked for me and what works for my patients is prioritising protein. So it's not about saying you can't have this and you can't have that, it's saying you actually have to have more protein. And start with breakfast. Just, if you can't do anything else, that first meal that you have, let's increase the protein. Whether it's eggs or good-quality bacon, if you're eating that, or, you know, a vegetarian protein, like South Asians will have a lot of things like various dals and lentils and pulses, you know, really kind of prioritise the protein. You'll get good-quality cheese, you know, anything, and think outside the box. So one of the things that I do is I always do some air-fried chicken, it's in the fridge. Boiled eggs are in the fridge. And so if you know that in the morning, the first, so I don't have to think about it, I just… And chicken, I find, you can eat cold. So it's already cooked, and it's a perfect kind of option if you don't want to be warming things up or whatever. So start with breakfast, just add protein and swap out the carbs, the rice there, because we South Asians do eat rice for breakfast as well, the cornflakes, the oats, all of that, swap it out for protein. And that just starts you off better. You feel your blood sugars are more stable, you are fuller for longer, you don't tend to get the cravings as much. So I think, and if you, to yourself, can prove, “Oh, actually, I can go for five hours without now thinking of food,” that's where you start. And that naturally then, the rest of it, if you prioritise protein, yo naturally can reduce your carbs, yes, that is perfect.
Dr Mary Barson (31:09) I often like to ask this question to our beautiful guests, like when you think about the future, what is it that excites you? What gives you hope?
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (31:21) Well, Mary, something really incredibly exciting happened, didn't it, at the beginning of this year with the new dietary guidelines released by the US. I think, you know, that is so optimistic, because a lot of countries, the dietary guidelines follow the US. So we're not there yet, but I think the fact that there is recognition that we can have good fats, that protein is important, that vegetables and fruits are important, that whole food, prioritised protein, good fats, it doesn't necessarily have to be low carb, because not everybody needs that. But those, I think, are so important. And I think that's what excites me, that possibly in the next five years, Australia also will get there, that this will reverberate around the world, and it won't be so difficult for the likes of us to educate our patients and share this knowledge.
Dr Mary Barson (32:26) Yes, I do.I share your hope and enthusiasm, and I think that this is just the beginning and that better things are coming, thanks to people such as yourself. So thank you so much for coming on the podcast, I've really enjoyed it. You have such a beautiful story to tell and such a beautiful way of telling it. So thank you so much, and I hope that we can have you on again soon.
Dr Nelum Dharmapriya (32:49) Oh, thank you, Mary, thank you so much.
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